Starship rules

[Paul]

This is something I found on another site. This isn't offical for us, just something posted here for ideas and stuff.

*Starship combat*
Give more options to crew on board starships (See RCR)
*Commander* (free action to issue orders, aid another on system operators Use Computer checks, aid another on gunners attack Know (tactics) DC 10 check, move action to assist pilot on pilot checks, swift action to aid another on engineers mechanics checks by coordinating the repair efforts),
*Pilot* (must always use a move action to move the ship, perform stunt, fire weapons, use sensors, operate shields, act as commander),
*Co-pilot* (standard action: aid another on pilot checks, fire weapons, use sensors, and operate shields),
*Gunner *(use stationed weapon, has full range of full attack ranged abilities, may also aid another gunner on a battery),
*System Op* (raise lower angle shields, recharge shields, move action to aid gunners attack or +2 to ships Ref Defense), Engineer (reroute power, jury-rigged repairs [full round action Mechanics DC 25 to repair any damaged system to remove any current negatives the ship and its crew is taking or to add xd4, 8, 10 hit points to the vehicle, the vehicle then looses that many hull points at the end of the encounter. If the added hit points would drop the ship below 0 the ship then has 1 remaining hull point].

*introduce facing/fire arcs *– affects capital ships (no rear fire arcs unless turrets), a turreted weapon system adds +1 EP and requires a gunner to operate but may fire in any direction. An added weapon system must have a declared fire arc when the weapon is first mounted to the vehicle.

*Angling shields*

*Pilots* (trained in pilot) gain 1 + Wisdom modifier in Starship maneuvers

*Battle damage and Flaws* a critical hit always does battle damage to a ships systems only if a single hit to the starship exceeded its Damage Threshold. That said I still might alter it. How about this, any damage the ship takes to its hull points that exceeds half the ships DT, the ship takes system hit/battle damage. Flaws develop only if the damage was over the DT. That will make being on board a ship very exciting and have things like stabilizers coming loose and what-not.

Targeting specific ship systems – Individual systems have 10% of a ships total hit points, targeting a system is treated as attacking a held object. A ships shields and DR still apply. A ship may enter a vessels square to bypass the shields, DR still applies. Need a list of systems and the affect they have when disabled.

Again, going for tactical combat but also want to reflect what we see in the movies and EU, ships targeting specific systems. The Shield Generators on the SD in EP VI, and in an episode of Clone Wars they were going to target the tractor beam pulling their ship in. It is a difficult thing to pull off given the size of the object being targeted and that it gets a +10 to Reflex Defense.

[Paul]

#Commander#
All the actions consist of the use of the aid another skill. When a commander issues an order he grants a +2 to the person he is aiding and rolls on the appropriate skill check against a dc 10, just like in the books.

Limitations and understanding:
The original rules apply for amount of actions per turn. The roll needed is the measurement of the crew’s ability to hear and understand the order, as well as the commander’s advice/order is actually useful. If the commander goes down, then anyone can take over his actions at the cost of their own, but the DC is then doubled.

Action / Type Skill Rolled DC- Result
Aid mechanics check (2 Swift) Mechanics 10 - +2 for the mechanic
Aid system operator (2 Swift) Use PC 10 - +2 for the use PC check
Aid Pilot (Move) Pilot 10 - +2 for the pilot check
Aid Gunner (Standard) BAB 10 - +2 for one gunner’s attack.

#Gunner#
Use stationed weapon, has full range of full attack ranged abilities, may also aid another gunner on a battery.

You coordinate an attack action with the engineer through communications (Free action), to add a +2 for a single attack. See the types of actions the engineer can do. You would need to hold your action until it became the engineers turn if your initiative is greater then his or have the engineer hold his action to wait for you.

You can overload your weapon for one round to gain a +4 to a single attack roll. The weapon must take one round of cool down before it can be used again.

#System Op#
These actions are all use computer checks not mechanics checks.

Action / Type DC Result
Raise / Lower Shields (Swift) N/A Raising / lowering shields. In the book
Angling Shields (Move) 15* Moving the shield arc*
Aid Gunner (Standard) 10 +2 for one gunner’s attack.
Tactical Analysis (Full) 25 +2 to ships reflex defense until next turn

*There will only be two shield arcs bow and aft. So to figure out the shield values of those arcs just divide the total shield points by two (round down). When you change the arcs you have the choice of using half or full. For example a ship has 100 shield points. That gives the ship 50 points per arc. The aft arc has taken 40 points of damage leaving it at 10 points. Well our systems operator wants more power to the aft shields. He then rolls his check and beats the DC. At that time he chooses either half or full amount to the aft shields from the bow. He chooses half, so the 50 points from the bow arc change to 25 and the aft arc changes from 10 to 35. If he failed the roll, then the arc change doesn’t happen. He has to try again next turn.




#Pilot#
New Move Actions/Stunts/Maneuvers
Since fire arcs are now important in ship combat the pilot will need to perform stunts and maneuvers to keep his target in their sights. These actions are pilot skill checks.

Maneuver – DC Result
90 Degree turn 20 You turn the ship 90 degrees at the cost of 2 squares of movement.
180 Degree turn 30 You turn the ship 180 degrees at the cost of 3 squares of movement or half, whichever is more.
Evasive action Opposed Gain a +2 to reflex defense until the start of your next turn against one opponent.
Attack Run In the book Charging Move – Gain +2 on attacks, but -2 on reflex defense.
Draw Fire 20 Give one ally a +2 to their reflex defense at the cost of 4 to your own.
Coordinated attack 20 Each pilot (No Limit) must make the pilot check. If a pilot fails the check, they that pilot’s bonus doesn’t add to the attack. One pilot is considered the shooter, and the other pilots use their aid another skills to add +2 to the shooters attack.
Increase Speed In the book In the book.*
Hit the Breaks 30 The vehicle stops. The purpose of this is if there is an attacker behind you, they might fly right by. Or of you don’t want to crash into something.
All out movement In the book In the book.*

* If you coordinate this action with the engineer through communications (Free action), add an additional square of movement. See the types of actions the engineer can do. You would need to hold your action until it became the engineers turn if your initiative is greater then his or have the engineer hold his action to wait for you.


#Co-pilot#
The lives of the co-pilots tend to be rather boring. The main advantage to the co-pilot is their aid another skill adds a +4 rather then a +2. Use the appropriate skill used for the aid another. For example if the co-pilot wanted to aid the systems operator to angle the shields, then he’d need to roll his use computer skill and he would use up move action.






*Engineer*
These actions are all mechanics checks.

Action / Type DC Result
Recharge Shields (3 Swift) 20 In the book - +5 to SR
Recharge Shields +1 (3 Swift) 30 In the book - but+10 to SR
Recharge Shields +2 (3 Swift) 40 In the book - but+15 to SR
Reroute Power (3 Swift) 20 Read Below #1
Coordinate (2 Swift) 20 Read Below #2
Jury-rig repairs (Full) 25 Read Below #3
Tactical Analysis (Full) 25 +2 to ships reflex defense until next turn


#1 When rerouting power the mechanic gets to choose a system you are drawing power from and the system you are moving the power to.

Drawing power from result System Moving the power to result
-1/4 of current shield total Shields +1/4 of current shield total
-1/4 of current HP Structural Integrity +1/4 of current HP
-2 Spaces per turn Engines #1 +2 Spaces per turn
-2 Reflex defense Engines #2 +2 Reflex defense
-2 Pilot Checks Maneuvering Engines +2 Pilot checks
-1 on the condition track Systems +1 on the condition track*
Hyperspace engines offline N/A
Communications offline N/A
*To move the ship one step up on the condition track you don’t need to draw power from somewhere else it is assumed you just repaired the damage. However if a system such as the maneuvering engines are damaged the damage is still affecting that system. For example let’s say our ship is -2 on the condition track with second degree damage to the maneuvering engines. This would be a total of -6 to maneuver, a -2 from the condition track, and a -4 for the degree of damage to that system. If the engineer raises the ship up one condition track, then that -6 would become a -5. This is applicable to every ship system. An engineer can voluntarily reduce a ship’s condition track if they so desire.

#2 The engineer coordinates a single system for one turn. For example let’s say the pilot wants an extra boost of speed, the two would then coordinate together. The engineer would roll his coordination check (mechanics to boost the one system if he fails then rather then adding the bonus he subtracted the bonus), then the pilot would then roll his increase speed check.

#3 Jury-rigged repairs are used to repair any damaged system quickly to remove any current negatives to that ship system. See the targeting specific ship systems section for a full list of available systems to jury-rig. Almost all jury-rigged repairs just temporarily reduce the degree of damage. A system can be jury-rigged many times, but must be fully repaired to be considered functioning normally.



#Targeting specific ship systems#
A ships shields and DR still apply. It is a difficult thing to pull off given the size of the object being targeted and that it gets a +15 to Reflex Defense. Ship systems have three degrees of damage. Slightly damaged, damaged, and destroyed. Each degree has a different level of penalty to the system. If a system reaches the third degree it is destroyed. To damage a ship’s system a degree of damage, the damage done to the ship must exceed the ships threshold.

System If Damaged Damage Degree If Jury-rigged
Shield Generator +5 DC for recharging shields First Damage Degree -1
Shield Generator +10 DC for recharging shields Second Damage Degree -1
Weapon -2 to attack rolls First Damage Degree -1
Weapon -4 to attack rolls Second Damage Degree -1
Engines #1 -2 to movement First Damage Degree -1
Engines #1 -4 to movement Second Damage Degree -1
Engines #2 -2 reflex defense First Damage Degree -1
Engines #2 -4 reflex defense Second Damage Degree -1
Maneuvering Engines -2 to pilot checks First Damage Degree -1
Maneuvering Engines -4 to pilot checks Second Damage Degree -1
Hyper Space Engines +2 DC to astrogation First Damage Degree -1
Hyper Space Engines +4 DC to astrogation Second Damage Degree -1
Sensors* -2 to Use Sensors First Damage Degree -1
Sensors* -4 to Use Sensors Second Damage Degree -1
Communications* -2 to Use Comm. First Damage Degree -1
Communications* -4 to Use Comm. Second Damage Degree -1

*If these systems are damaged then they have affects on other actions as well. For example if sensors are damaged, then the system operator will have the applicable penalty for any action that requires the sensors such as aiding the gunner. For communications the ship can’t use the com system to coordinate their attacks within and from other ships.

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[Paul]

The above stuff isn't going to be used, but I didn't want to create another thread.

I can't remember how to do ship combat. Specifically ions and threshold.

Ship 1 = Y wing
120 HP (Hit Points)
10 DR (Damage Reduction)
25 SR (Shield Reduction)
46 Threshold

vs

Ship 2 = TIE with special ION cannons.
60 HP (Hit Points)
10 DR (Damage Reduction)
00 SR (Shield Reduction)
32 Threshold

Y Wing shoots Ions at TIE. Hit. Roll damage. (4d10X2 = 54)

The rule to keep in mind.

If the ion damage (before being halved) equals or exceeds the target's damage threshold, the target moves -2 steps on the condition track.

This is where I get confused. What is the order of the damage?

#1. Damage - Checked VS Threshold then DR?
#2. Damage - DR then check vs threshold?

Add in shields and I get even more confused.

#1a. Damage - Checked VS Threshold then DR, then shields, then half to HP?

I'm not going to type out all the possibilities of those.

What we were doing was we would take the damage (54) in our example. That 54 would hit shields first. Using 20 for an example SR then the damage would be 34, then the DR of 10 would take into effect, taking the damage to 24. That would then be halved to 12. The ship would take 12 and the SR would be lowered by 5.

This just seems rather silly. We will NEVER beat threshold this way and IONS are just useless. I could be wrong we don't do space battles often.

LOGICALLY it makes sense though. Why would the ship's threshold be beaten, the shields and the DR takes the brunt of the attack.

I'm lost.

If we checked for threshold before shields and after dr then Ions become god like.

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Update:

Dan and I have come up with this:

ION Damage is dealt.

If the ship has no shields then subtract damage reduction then check vs threshold. The damage is then halved to the hit points. If threshold is beat, then the target is lowered two condition tracks.

50 damage to a ship with damage reduction of 10 with a threshold of 30.

50-10 (DR) = 40 > 30 (TH) divide by 1/2 = 20 damage to HP and down 2 condition tracks.


If the ship has shields then subtract shield rating first, then damage reduction then check vs threshold. The damage is then halved to the hit points. If threshold is beat, then the target is lowered two condition tracks.

50 damage to a ship with damage reduction of 10 with a threshold of 30 and a SR of 20.

50-20 (SR) = 30 -10 (DR) = 20 < 30 (TH) divide by 1/2 = 10 damage to HP and SR down 5.

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When I put it together this way, things seem to be a little better.

If the ship has shields then subtract shield rating first, then check vs threshold, then damage reduction . The damage is then halved to the hit points. If threshold is beat, then the target is lowered two condition tracks.

50-20 (SR) = / 30 = 30 (TH) / -10 (DR) = 20 / divide by 1/2 = 10 damage to HP and SR down 5, and down 2 condition tracks.

[Paul]

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