House Rules

[Paul]

I'm sure we all remember this:

New Rules: It’s Saga Time:
There will be no need for the companion characters anymore. You can either choose to play your Jedi or your companion after a mission briefing. For story purposes the characters are still around and if needed they will be run like an NPC.
The story remains the same as well as the characters. Try your best to recreate your Jedi as close to your original as possible. Race and characteristics are the most important. When I recreated Rory I didn’t have to have him trained in mechanics, but since his character was learning how from the tech specialist I only felt it fair that he took the skill. I don’t all of a sudden want to see a once Jedi character start down the path of a gunslinger. Try to keep the character as close as possible to how you played it. We are all level four characters (6,000 EXP regardless of what you have) and if you wanted to recreate your companions (or create one) they are all level two. I do not want to try and do the conversion, just make the characters over; it isn’t that hard to do. The Excel sheet that Harry found is rather nice and all our characters races are in it. I did notice that the attack modifiers for the weapons do not update after a level increase, so when you recreate your character, put your weapons in last. The excel file also adds an extra +2 damage to weapons. I can’t figure out if I am missing something or the file just adds and extra +2. Just make a note of this when you are playing your character and like always double check to see if everything on the file is correct. Also don’t change the name of the knowledge skills, if you are going to train in a knowledge skill just write it on your sheet. Retyping it causes errors. The excel file also doesn’t have the changes from the errata. The major difference is the handling of force skills. The errata reads:
”p. 85 – Force Training Feat
Under the Special section, the feat should say, "Each time you take this feat, you add to your Force suite a number of new Force powers equal to 1 + your Wisdom modifier."
Make sure you check to see if the amounts of force skills you have match the amount you are suppose to have. If it is wrong then you can add the skills under the bonus tab in the file. The file doesn’t work with open office. For those that use open office I guess you will have to type out your characters and send them to me, or find a sheet to fill out or something. All characters must be sent to me.
I am going to create a conversion for ship creation using the base stats from the Saga books and my starship book. This is only for those who wish to create your own ship. (The Prime, The Bunny’s Ship, and unfortunately Rory ship are not in the Saga books)
I was reading about the destiny system and here is my take on it: Anyone can take a destiny but your destiny must be approved by me. This includes bonus, penalty, and fulfillment. Your destiny must at least answer who, what, and why. If anyone wishes to implement a destiny then they will start with four destiny points for your Jedi, and two for a companion or one point per level. There are a few example destinies in the book as well as bonuses, penalties, and fulfillments. The more creative you are, the more lenient I will be on bonuses and penalties. This is entirely optional; I will allow anyone to do this even if they are the only person doing it. Destinies can also be held confidential if you wish. This is an example of what I’m expecting:
Name: Fenrir (Picture not required)


Technology:
Your destiny is to discover the secrets of the droid that was brought to you by Rory and his friends. It is embedded into his race to be fascinated by new devices and unfamiliar machinery. While working diligently to avoid any unwanted Imperial attention Fenrir keeps his findings mostly to his trusted inner circle.
Destiny Bonus: For 24 hours you get a +2 on all your mechanics skill checks.
Destiny Penalty: For 24 hours you get a -2 on all your mechanics skill checks.
Destiny Fulfilled: You get a permanent +5 destiny bonus on all mechanics skill checks.
The book explains that the GM or a player can pick the destiny. I saw nothing in the book that said we can’t do both, unless I missed it. So far I’ve created secret destinies for both Dan and Harry’s characters. For those with secret destinies I will try my best to give everyone a chance to role play their character to earn their destiny bonus. If I can’t find the opportunity then the characters will not receive their bonus or penalty. I do not want to have characters have destinies that take place between adventures, or things that happened OOC. Fenrir is a perfect example. If Fenrir was not an NPC character, I would expect him to work on the droid as much as possible in game. This could easily be done by the situations I would put him in. Example: We (The party and Fenrir) are going to travel across the galaxy for a new mission. At this point I EXPECT Fenrir to say “Ok guys, but I’m bringing the droid with me to work on during the voyage.” If that happened, then Fenrir will get his destiny bonus, if it didn’t then he will get his penalty.



Old Stuff which is the same as the stuff before:
Stats: No Rolling - Using point method (Planned Character Generation) - 25 Points
Max Credits at starting
All characters will be given starting EQ. This EQ will not be taken from their starting credits. The gear is field kit (with all that comes with it), comlink, and a medpac. The characters did not lose any gear, if you found things during the prior games, then your characters still have the gear.
Max Vitality (Hit Points) rather than rolling during a level up.
No Class or Multiclass restrictions:
Prestige Classes allowed.
Allowed Races:
Any of the alien species listed as normally available for PCs can be selected for a character. In addition to this, other alien species listed in the "Allies and Enemies" section are permissible, with the exception of the Yuuzhan Vong.
www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/sw20020523aliens
www.wizards.com/leaving.asp?url=/starwars/downloads/UAA_WE_Meerian_Tchuukthai.pdf&origin=starwars_article_sw20030410uaaweb

[delwugor]

You also might want to check out some of the house rules posted on rpg.net.

[Paul]

Character Creation

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• Stats: No Rolling - Using point method (Planned Character Generation) - 25 Points
  
• Max Credits at starting
  
• All characters will be given starting EQ. This EQ will not be taken from their starting credits. The gear is field kit (with all that comes with it), comlink, and a medpac.
  
• Max Vitality (Hit Points) rather than rolling during a level up and at creation.
  
• No Class, Multiclass, or Prestige Classes restrictions: The only exception is Jedi. If you can give me a good enough reason to play one I will allow it.
  
• There are no racial restrictions with the exception of the Yuuzhan Vong.
  

Destiny

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I was reading about the destiny system and here is my take on it: Anyone can take a destiny but your destiny must be approved by me. This includes bonus, penalty, and fulfillment. Your destiny must at least answer who, what, and why. If anyone wishes to implement a destiny then they will start with four destiny points for your Jedi, and two for a companion or one point per level. There are a few example destinies in the book as well as bonuses, penalties, and fulfillments. The more creative you are, the more lenient I will be on bonuses and penalties. This is entirely optional; I will allow anyone to do this even if they are the only person doing it. Destinies can also be held confidential if you wish.

This is an example of what I’m expecting:
Name: Fenrir (Picture not required)

Technology:
Your destiny is to discover the secrets of the droid that was brought to you by Rory and his friends. It is embedded into his race to be fascinated by new devices and unfamiliar machinery. While working diligently to avoid any unwanted Imperial attention Fenrir keeps his findings mostly to his trusted inner circle.
Destiny Bonus: For 24 hours you get a +2 on all your mechanics skill checks.
Destiny Penalty: For 24 hours you get a -2 on all your mechanics skill checks.
Destiny Fulfilled: You get a permanent +5 destiny bonus on all mechanics skill checks.
The book explains that the GM or a player can pick the destiny. I saw nothing in the book that said we can’t do both, unless I missed it. I do not want to have characters have destinies that take place between adventures, or things that happened OOC. Fenrir is a perfect example. If Fenrir was not an NPC character, I would expect him to work on the droid as much as possible in game. This could easily be done by the situations I would put him in. Example: We (The party and Fenrir) are going to travel across the galaxy for a new mission. At this point I EXPECT Fenrir to say “Ok guys, but I’m bringing the droid with me to work on during the voyage.” If that happened, then Fenrir will get his destiny bonus, if it didn’t then he will get his penalty.

I am leaning towards the idea of eliminating the destiny aspect from the game. As it stands currently no one has a destiny. I will work on a compromise, eliminate destiny, or if people can create one I will keep it. As of now destiny looks like it will be going away soon.

Hyperspace Rules

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The following hyperspace rules replace the rules for determining travel time in the SECR and work WITH the astrogation rules presented in the Star ships of the Galaxy.

Hyperspace travel: Travel within the same region of space; When traveling within the same region of space (Outer Rim for example) calculate the time using the following formula: 1d10+1 hour per area crossed hours x hyper drive modifier.

Travel across multiple regions; When traversing multiple regions calculate the time using the following formula: 1d12+Y hours x hyper drive multiplier + n days. Where "n" equals +1 day per region crossed. Y = areas crossed on the map.

Example: When traveling from the Core to the Outer Rim use the formula 1d12+Y hours x hyper drive modifier + 5 days (for crossing through 5 regions of space).

Hyperspace lanes: When traveling along a major hyperspace lane divide the total time in half.

Definitions -
Region - For example outter rim to core world.
Area - For example space T3 to U4.

Players then roll their use computer checks with a DC set by the GM. For every 5 points the check beats the DC the user can reduce one hour.

I also couldn't find an official rule, but for the sake of argument lets assume the following. Communication in hyperspace is possible ship to ship. Ships probably have some type of proximity detection to avoid hitting some rogue objects, and I want to adopt the star trek rule, ships can "see" each other in hyperspace at minimum by using sensors. Rules will still apply for sensor jamming and detection.

Linking computers to arrive at the same time require a DC 10 use computer check.

Feat Changes

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OK after talking once again about the problems with star ship weapons I've come up with this.

Heavy Weapons remains the same, nothing changes at all. Characters can still use the big ol guns, and vehicle weapons.

Vehicular Combat is the same but with one change. The book states that while you are piloting a vehicle, you are considered proficient with pilot-operated vehicle weapons.

The new rule reads, you are proficient with all vehicle weapons even if you are not the pilot, but only the pilot may negate a successful weapon hit.

Reasoning: Heavy weapons..You can use a big cannon but can't use a pistol? I am saying can't use as in without penalty. This doesn't change, but for the argument of using vehicle weapons this makes more sense.

Vehicular combat: So you can use the pilots weapons, but you move one seat over to shoot the other weapons and you can't?

Vehicular combat is a more suitable option now for pilot types, and heavy weapons for big gun wielding dudes.

Contrary to popular belief this was done to help the non pilots, because Rory was always piloting the ship he was shooting the weapons for. So if anyone thinks this was an attempt to abuse GM powers then they can remove themself from the forum.

[Paul]

Destinies are now going to be worked like this.

Everyone has a destiny, but no one will be granted bonuses or penalized when doing or not doing their destiny.

The major change can be seen in the picture below.



Anyone can also take the stuff from the force unleashed books if they take the unleashed feat. The points are gained the same way before. So read up on the other books if you want to know what I'm talking about.

[Paul]

Gal Map

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System / Routing Bonus / Damaged / Destroyed
1. Engines / +1/2 Speed / 1/2 Speed / Can’t Move
2. Maneuvering Jets / +2 Ref Def / -2 Ref Def / -5 Ref Def
3. Shields / -2 Loss / -7 Loss / -10 Loss
4. Ship Systems / +½ Bonus to Help / -½ Bonus to help /Can’t Help
5. Weapons / +5 Per Attack / -5 Per attack / Disabled
6. Damage / -5 DC to repair / +5 to DC to repair / +10 to DC to repair
7. Weapon Power / +1D Damage / -1D Damage / -3D Damage
8. Special

Explanations:
This is an attempt to replace the condition track in space combat. When a ship gets damaged beyond its threshold roll a 1d8 and consult the chart above. When the system is damaged a DC 15 is needed to repair (standard action) and when it is destroyed a DC 20 is needed. Anyone can reroute power (move action) from one system to another at a DC 10. For example if Fred’s engines are damaged he can then choose to reroute power from weapons. Doing this gives Fred his full movement but at the cost of a damaged weapon system. If the engines were destroyed then in this example the weapons system would then act as if they were destroyed. Essentially the system is moved down a step. A character may reroute power from one system to a perfectly functioning system to grant that system a bonus. If anyone rolls a 6 then the DC for repairs and rerouting is increased by 5 or 10 including #6. Each failure will grant the user a +4 on their next attempt that I am calling progress. If a character rolls and gets their shields damaged then the shields lose more power if they get damaged. For example in a normal situation if a characters ship takes damage beyond their shields, the shields would be dropped 5 points. If the shields were damaged they would lose 7 points from the shields not 5 etc. If anyone rolls a special then I am going to come up with something before game that will be your special slot. For ship systems I am mostly just going to have damage done to the communication system. What good is that you may ask, read below.

I will grant characters bonuses for actions for working in teams. For example Red 2 says to concentrate all fire on the TIE in front of him or Green 6 says he can’t shake the TIE on his tail. Working together and assisting others should make the combat more interesting from a tactical and role playing stance. The more creative people are the more the bonus will be. If everyone just simply “I Roll My Attack, move here, and end my turn” then it is on you if the combat is boring. If you can’t communicate over the com system then you won’t get the bonuses. The point is the fleet is hearing you, not one person telepathically in another ship. I've made most the bonuses up and will randomly decide in game what happens. If you can convince me of granting a bonus I will allow it.


Dan’s special slot idea that I have is his astromech. Just like R2 getting hit in the death star trench Dan’s droid will be the one taking the damage. For Dan the chart would like this:

8. Special +4 on Initiative / -4 on Initiative / Can’t Act
The droid will have no initiative bonus so I feel this should be fun.

I will ask Bob later and ask maybe you guys can come up with something for Rory.

I’d also like to have anyone get prepared for space combat. What I mean is that we come out of hyperspace on the other end of the system and launch all fighters. For example Rory is routing shields and communications to both weapons categories. This gives Rory a +5 on attack rolls, a 1D more of damage at the cost of shield rate being increased per loss and his bonus to help is cut in half. He feels confident in his shields and doesn’t want to help much anyway. I am ONLY allowing two bonuses. We are in a hurry because the Empire has detected us and are launching their own fighters. With that being said Fenrir was able to get a replacement translator for Sabby’s saber but was unable to put it back together. Fenrir gave Sabby instructions on how to do so, but it will take 10 uninterrupted minutes and a mechanics check DC 20. Scanners have been able to determine the fleet we are up against, one Star Destroyer, one Interdictor Star Destroyer, with their full compliment of fighters (96) and six yt-1300s from the Etula. Our plan (I just made this up) to micro jump close the planet is nullified by Interdictor.

Is anyone going to make any adjustments?


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Action Bonus Penalty

1. Get him off my tail. +1/2 Move -2 on All guns
2. Concentrate fire on my target. +2 Guns -2 Reflex
3. My Engines are hit. +2 Guns -1/2 Move
4. My guns are hit +1D Damage -2 Reflex
5. Cover Me +2 Reflex to ally -1D Damage on All guns
6. I’m hit +1D Damage -2 on All guns
7. Systems are hit +1/2 Move -1D Damage on All guns
8. Incoming! +2 Reflex to ally -1/2 Move


When someone says the action over the communication anyone that helps is granted the bonus and penalty.

For incoming this could be anything from a new wave of fighters, a missile, single ship, asteroid etc.


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I've decided to allow PoW's gear head feat to allow him to set his personal modifications as a swift action rather than a standard action.

[Paul]

It is official, we are adding the "call upon the dark side" roll modifier.

The rule is as follows:
When you wish to use a force point you roll one die step higher than you'd normally do to call upon the dark side. D6s become d8s and d8s become d10s. You are granted a dark side point for doing so.

For force users the rules to remove the dark side points are still applicable.

For non force users they can either spend a normal force point to negate a dark side point. To stop abuse of this, the character may only do this once per 24 hours of GAME time. This doesn't need to be all in succession and can be gradually done over time. They can also spend 24 hours meditating with a force user, or something as simple as 24 hours of anger management. RPing is encouraged.

New Aid another rule.

Old rule:
You can help another character achieve success on their skill check or ability check by making the same kind of skill or ability check in a cooperative effort. If you roll a 10 or higher on your check, the character you are helping receives a +2 bonus on their check.

New Rule:
You can help another character achieve success on their skill check or ability check by making the same kind of skill or ability check in a cooperative effort. If you roll a 10 or higher on your check, the character you are helping receives a +2 bonus on their check. In addition, if you roll a 15 or higher on your check, the character you are helping receives a +3 bonus on their check or a 20 or higher on your check, the character you are helping receives a +4 bonus on their check. All other rules apply.